ALLAN GIBOFSKY, MD: The concept of cupping that we talked about earlier, is not some arcane Eastern philosophy. Cupping was practiced at the time of the American revolution here by such paragons of medicine as Benjamin Rush, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. We're just now beginning to reintroduce the kinds of techniques that we abandoned with laughter because we're now learning that they worked.
Many of my colleagues who are plastic surgeons have gone back to the use of leeches in patients who have had amputations to parts of their bodies. The leeches will eat away the bad flesh, allowing a better graft of the part that's been severed. So I think we need to be aware of more than just what we've learned, and to continue to learn from our patients, from our colleagues and from others about the newer techniques or the newer applications of the older ones.
IFEOMA OKORONKWO, MD: Exactly. One such technique actually is the use of magnet therapy.
DAVID MARKS, MD: Does it work?
IFEOMA OKORONKWO, MD: Once again, I have to sort of agree with Allan that the trials are out there. They are not as stringent as perhaps we would like, but they are very promising.
Magnets do appear, in some cases and in one study in particular, to have relieved some pain associated with what we call neuropathy or nerve ending pain. Anecdotally, people use it for arthritic pain all the time. Patrick Ewing, I think, even used it in a basketball game to help with his elbow pain.
DAVID MARKS, MD: But some of these things may work for some people. The story is that we really need to study them further to see really which ones are more effective and which ones aren't.
ALLAN GIBOFSKY, MD: And when they do work, or when our patients think they work, as long as they are not harming the patient, we need to keep an open mind. I have patients who ask me, "Should I wear a copper bracelet." My response to them is "Absolutely wear a copper bracelet, and remember to put it on when you're reaching for the medication that I prescribed to you." If a medication is working, fine. But if an integrative therapy - and I really love that word. I'm going to begin using it more and more. If an integrative therapy does no harm - and that's the first rubric of our profession, above all do no harm - we really need to be more open-minded and to encourage our patients to make use of what works for them.
DAVID MARKS, MD: Well that's going to be the last word. Thank you both for joining us. And thank you for joining our webcast. I'm Dr. David Marks. Goodbye.